Archeology – Bones of giants found in Kabylia

The owner of the property where the site is located, Mr Crif Nat Mulud, a descendant of the famous Kabyle revolutionary Lady Fadma N’Summer, as he proudly introduces himself to a local reporter, said that he was digging for the foundation of a new construction when he ran into a little mountain of bones. At first, he thought that these must be recent remains from a mass murder dump from one of the wars during the last 1/2 century, speculating on the islamists, or one of algerian military or security services’ execution of people, who were brought here from elsewhere. The number of persons at final count is about 30, and more are expected to be found in the future.

When 1st asked about what he thought these bones were? Mr Nat Mulud with big open eyes confessed “I think these are giants!”

Are there any giants known in the area? “No these from are from far far in the past” – A littlesilence – “They had to be our ancestors, then !” He concludes.

From further conversation, we lear that, almost no feedback was received from the archeological services of the provincial government. “We got an explanation about the 1st site, discovered in the 90s, but not on this one, since it appeares that these are Giants from an era pre-dating the 8th century.” He explained.

During the one time visit to the site an explanation was given to the local authorities who later conveyed it that, at first they thought that it was a Roman Era cimetery, because of a nearby now dry fountain known to be from that era, in the area. But the carbon dating of the items found in the 1990s site revealed a much earlier date. Tese bones are said to be the same era. No efforts to preserve the 1st site belonging to Mr. nezla, the owner, and none are expected for this one either, he explained. A local archeologist explained that it predated the 8th century because of the disposition of the tombs, not organized according to islamic rule. TOmbs of Moslims are all oriented to the east (mecca). In Islamic ritual, the bodies lay on the back, with arms straits down. It is not the case here. These toumbs are random, more specific to a personal choice than some pre-establish rule. In one solitary corner, we found a woman holding an infant. Some tombs had more than one body, something Kabyles still do. Until today, it is common practice that people ask to be beared with a loved one, and their wishes are respected. Finally an ancient inscription-tablet was also found in the site and, was stolen right after the news about the discovery spread. According to local archeologists, who have studied the ustencils found in the 1st site, these bones and cemeteries date back to even before. Between 1000 to 30 000 years B.C.

As if, any evidence of historical value which may shed some light on pre-islamic history of Kabylia, and north Algeria in general, such archeological discoveries are systematically diminished in importance, and their sites abandoned to fading memory. To official Algeria, life in north Africa at large didn’t begin until the advent of islam. Particularly in Kabylia, which didn’t have any direct encounter with Arabs, sheltered by ruggedness and high-altitude of the Kabyle province.

Inquiries with the Provincial specialized agency, and universities did not hear of the site, despite the village’s mayor visit reporting the site, which prompted the visit of a low level technician for sampling and pictures only. The event may have not even officially recorded.
By A. Wezdad, covering Tuvirett.

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  1. This is a great discovery ..can anyone tell when was that happened ?
    this should be spread out for studies to tell the truth abouth our History .

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    1. Thank you.

      The site contaning the bones was discovered last September, 2009.

      The nearby one with the Ustencils, was discovered in 1992, I believe.

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  2. It is certainly interesting… but it is unfortunate that the photos which accompany this article appear to be entirely fraudulent. If this story is to be believed, then it certainly needs some photos which do not make the SKULL appear to be nearly two meters in height.

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    1. I have also read about the discovery. Abviously, both the skeleton and the only person allowed in, are seen from above, and from the bones’ side. However, the most important part is THE NEGLECT of both the site and the research aspect.

      I guess {{opinions}} and {{views}}, just the {{image}}, are question of {{PERSPECTIVE}} !

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  3. Takfarinas Nait Abbas · Edit

    Azul fell awen,

    This whole story is a FRAUD ! The author of this bullshit should be ashamed of him/herself.

    The very same picture was circulated in some arabo-islamist websites several years ago, as a “proof” of some Arab legends about giants.
    It has been discussed on several occasions in many websites, as you can check for yourself. It was orginally a prank on a US website. What you reproduce in your photograph is only a fragment of the original prank.

    {Ur tettsithidh ara ay amaruy, tekksed leqder f yiggad i-yeqqaren ibehtiten agi-na yne-k.}

    All you need is use your brains, in order to see that the photograph is a forgery. The mass of your giant varies like the cube of his size, while the force the giant is able to develop to stand upright and move around is only proportional to its size. So if the giant is ten times bigger than an ordinary man, he can only call upon a force that is 10 times bigger to move around a body that is 1,000 times heavier. Your giant will only collapse.

    Indeed, as you can see on the picture, the man is at least an order of magnitude smaller than the skeleton, say 10 times smaller.

    Now you know form physics that the volume of the giant (whence his weight) will vary like the cube of its size. So if the giant is 10 times taller the a normal man, the giant’s volume should be 10x10x10 = 1000 (one thousand) times larger. Whence, since weight is roughly proportional to volume (amount of matter), the giant would weigh one thousand times the weight of the average person, that is something in the order of one thousand times 100 kilogrammes, that is 100, 000 kilogrammes , a mass comparable to that of a blue whale, the largest living animal known on Earth.

    On the other hand, the force of the giant and the resistance of his bones only vary linearly with the size. So being 10 times taller means that his skeleton can only support a weight 10 times larger, and develop a muscular force 10 times larger than that of an ordinary man.

    So you are face with the problem of moving the weight of one thousand people, using the force of only ten people. This simply does not work.

    Did you ever wonder what elephants have such thick bones and looke so fat and clumsy? Because force is a linear function of size, while weight is a cubic function of size.

    So please, in the future, keep such garbage out of your website. There is already enough garbage along the roads of Kabylia. We do not need to add more on websites.

    Tanemmirt n wen irkwelli.

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    1. {{ {“…On the other hand, the force of the giant and the resistance of his bones only vary linearly with the size. So being 10 times taller means that his skeleton can only support a weight 10 times larger, and develop a muscular force 10 times larger than that of an ordinary man.

      So you are face with the problem of moving the weight of one thousand people, using the force of only ten people. This simply does not work.

      Did you ever wonder what elephants have such thick bones and looke so fat and clumsy? Because force is a linear function of size, while weight is a cubic function of size. “} }}

      You are so excited ! You need pills, t calm down. The sites exist, and even reported by locl apapers as a brief. The size mentioned was that of two meters and half, that is about 8 to 9 feet, when a average female in Algeria and the United States is 5.8 feet, that’s close 1 meter difference – So it;’s the ratio, almost double, that explains the owner of the site’s exclamation, which is absolutely normal. 7 feet tall mn exist in the world today, and not something rare either ! 1 foot extra move the word from huge to giant ! – ou seem to take these pretty rational dimensions and their qalifications out of context !

      I wrote the article, but didn’t print the picture, but I didn’t argue wth the Webmater who did, in that, it’s carricature, in ways, to catch your attention, to something different – THE TREATMENT OF ARCHEOLOGICAL SITES IN ALGERIA AND THE ATTITUDEOF THE CENTRAL GOVERNMET TO ANYTHING THAT CANNOT BE NUANCED WITH ARAB O ISLAM. – But you don’t seemto have read that, have you? Or do you have anything to to say to deny that too?

      Have you ever seena caricaturist work ?

      The two sites and the dimensions of 2.5 meters as well as the neglect are FACTS.

      The rest is irrelevent, to the article.

      Opine, author.

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      1. Takfarinas Nait Abbas · Edit

        You are happily dwelling in intellectual dishonesty, downloading the burden of
        your own responsability on your Webmaster.
        You are furthermore responding to rational criticism and factual information
        with personal insults and abuse:

        {{“You are so excited ! You need pills, t calm down.”}}

        (verbatim). I maintain that the juxtaposition of your prose with the prank picture that
        has been seen millions of times on the Web, constitutes a FRAUD.
        Whence, this kind of intellectual trash does not belong to Tamurt.info.

        In an attempt to counter that inevitable conclusion, you write in your response:

        {{“Have you ever seena caricaturist work ?”}}

        To put it in a nutshell, you are basically saying that you are caricaturing
        yourself, and your own message. Let it be, then.

        Your shallow and dismissive reaction to another follow-up from another reader (see
        below) also suggests that you should not be taken seriously.

        You may wish to ponder what Talleyrand said: “Tout ce qui est excessif est insignifiant.”

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        1. Now that you multiplications, and pseudo-scientific analysis of the dimensions is proven to be pure BS(see your original comment on the article), you adventure yourself in the realm of the abstract… You are paranoid !

          The point of the article, to which you refer as “Intellectual”, when it’s just “FACT REPORTING”, is the sabottage of the Algerian regime of anything of significance in the Algerian memory, which contradicts their imaginary arabian islamic creation(megalomania) – which you share with them.

          1. The discoveries are FACT

          2. The dimensions are FACT

          3. The treatment of site by the regime is FACT(which you confirm)

          4. The articles reports these 3 facts and puts them into context

          5. The article establishes one more proof of the necessity for Kabylia (and the rest of algeria for that matter), to dismiss the regime and SELF-GOVERN !

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        2. {{ {To put it in a nutshell, you are basically saying that you are caricaturing yourself, and your own message. Let it be, then.} }}

          You are a frick/psycho !!! – A caricaturist, just like a journalist or any writer is an artist ! He puts enphasis on few noticeable features, to invite you to discover the identity of his subject – That’s for normal people, not fricks like you…

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  4. [The origin of the name Isle of Man is Kabyle,->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man#Etymology_of_name]

    Isle of Man: The origin of the name Isle of Man is unclear—kabyle? In the Manx Gaelic language the Isle of Man is known as Ellan Vannin, where ellan is a Gaelic word meaning ’island’. The earliest form of ’Man’ is Manu or Mana[32] giving the genitive name Manann leading to the word Mannin, which is lenited when used after the feminine word Ellan, giving Mhannin. As ’mh’ is pronounced like a ’v’ in Goidelic languages, in modern Manx the name becomes Ellan Vannin. These forms are related to the figure of Celtic mythology known as Manannán to the Irish and Manawydan to the Welsh.[33]

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    1. And what does it have to do with the story, about abnormally big persons one to two feet taller than the average? – You seem like the person who writes about physics and ten times this and a skull of 2.5 meters… which the article does not metion in any way. The height of the squeleton is 2.5 meters which about 1.4 times the size of a normal person and not 10 times – What seemed odd was the picture, and the explanation was given too.

      I will be reporting on another site, which before hand I report IS NOT A PYRAMID – And focus on the treatment of Archeoly by a racist regime. So, read it that way !

      When an authority engages in trafficking history, it opens doors to all bets !

      As to the Irish:
      I was not around, but given that everybody came from Africa, I wonder why imagine that they went where they are through a different path, other than the shortest, i.e along the Atlantic Coast? So some similitude in language with Western Africanones, is not to dismiss without convincing evidence, and any speculation to that effect is rational.

      Thanks for your feedback.

      Opine, Author.

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